But the answer is I just don't know.
The problem with this case is the number of individuals who look promising one way or another. You can find info about them here, too.
There are enough red flags about Frank Dienes that he should be seriously looked at. And questioned.
But there is no doubt in my mind that Joe Kopp told people Frank was involved in the girl's abduction. That alone makes Frank interesting.
But, like everyone else, I'm still waiting for that missing piece.
37 comments:
Do I think Frank did it? I have no clue, but I would hope he did so we can finally solve this case.
I do believe he should be considered a viable person of interest.
Of all the crimes for Joe to account Frank of, why pick Amy's if it was not true?
The big thing right now I believe is Frank has connections to both the place of abduction and the place Amy's body was found. (yes I am sure other do as well).
It is also interesting he was looked at back in 1989 by the police.
At this point, I hope the police really do have DNA evidence.
So Frank Dienes has ""brain damage after his mother gave him bad oranges a *few years ago*"
How fricking convenient for him. Yet He Apparently has enough sense to Kill poor old Joe. And God Knows what he did to this Poor Girl in 89'. What A damn Liar...
Too bad Frank Dienes Jr. couldn't have died at Birth & two Ohio communities could have been spared two Horrific Tragedies.
"But there is no doubt in my mind that Joe Kopp told people Frank was involved in the girl's abduction." Really? Let's see the facts - or are you just trying to stir everyone up over some obsession you can't get over.
You said on your Cleveland News Channel 5 interview that the FBI isn't looking into this case as much as you would like. HMM maybe because they know they can't get any evidence to convict Frank Dienes – you need hard evidence to put someone away for murder, not just a testimony from some pushy author. Do you think the legal system does not apply to you? I see you had some problems with the defense lawyer, and now you're trying to convince everyone to believe that Frank killed Amy. Again, show me the facts! I haven't seen any, just some coincidences that I'm sure many other men have with the Amy case.
Maybe Frank did it, maybe he did not, but you are just a journalist. Let our detectives handle this. At least they will do it the proper way without posting images of someone’s farm all over your blog and causing turmoil for Frank's brother and his family. Don't make Amy's family relive this tragedy over and over just because you want your 15 minutes of fame.
Does his yearbook picture resemble the police sketch for Amy's abductor? I would think that the yearbook picture would be easiest dated picture to obtain. I think most highschool libraries keep a copy of the yearbooks.
In 1989, Frank was working w/ older & intelligent brother. His brother & father were the drivers of the work trucks back then, if my memory serves me right. Frank was controlled by the Father & was pretty much illiterate. I don't think he'd have had the smarts, courage, or opportunity to kidnap a child & do those atrocities.
I hope legitimate proof is used to find Amy's killer & not just pinned on this moron!
There's like five Anonymous people. But for the third one down ...
Can you read?! James knows he needs hard facts, he never said he had the hard evidence. The title is called "Do I think Frank did it?", automatically saying, "What is my opinion?"
In Mr. Renner's opinion, he has no doubt that Joe Kopp TOLD OTHER PEOPLE that Frank was involved with Amy's death.
In fact, he DOES have hard evidence that Joe has told them that Frank was involved with Amy's death. Read his past blogs, where he received anonymous emails saying what Joe told them.
http://amymihaljevic.blogspot.com/2011/04/joe-kopp-told-many-people-about-amy.html
Read the RIP- Joe Kopp Facebook page where A TON of people say that Joe told them that Frank was involved since 1989 until his death.
If you refer BACK to the blog that was posted on April 30th, titled "Dienes was a potential suspect 21 years ago", he actually talks about how Dienes WAS a suspect after Amy's death.
So now prove you wrong one more time, you said,
"You said on your Cleveland News Channel 5 interview that the FBI isn't looking into this case as much as you would like."
I tried to search it so that I can back myself up, but I can't even find anything about this interview.
Anyhow, Mr. Renner posted on April 29th, titled "Frank Dienes in Court", this:
"These links are being taken quite seriously and I can say that Bay Village police are taking a close look at Frank Dienes right now."
So let's review.
The title is "Do I think Frank did it?" (again, meaning this blog will be in his own opinion), he is not trying to stir anything up nor get people to believe one way or the other. He knows he needs hard evidence to "throw someone under the bus", if you will. He's not trying to be a detective, he's trying to provide the information he knows and what everyone else should know, and he's also acting as a "middle man" so that people can talk to him confidently and anonymously.
You should get your head out of you ass and read the blogs. Educate yourself so that you can get your facts straight before you talk shit to someone. Otherwise, you sound like an ignorant idiot and someone will call you out on it. :)
The question is why did Frank Dienes kill Joe Kopp? Was it to silence him?
To Anonymous post 6: Random e-mails aren't hard evidence. Yeah, maybe Frank is suspect, but there were also a 1000 other suspects.
The interview is on News Channel 5's web page. Look it up - it was on last night.
Did Renner tell you he needs hard evidence or are you just like him and want to create a choas in innocent people's lives? You say that renner knows he needs hard evidence to throw someone under the bus? WRONG....he has already done that to Dienes. Maybe you should educate yourself and read the blogs.
So you say Renner is not trying to be a detective... well he tries to act like one. Just ask the people who have had the experience of him showing up unannounced to their home and getting questioned by him. AND he did conduct an interview with Diense, which, if you don't know, is what detectives do.
Bottom Line: Not trying to defend Diense, just do not want to see innocent people have their lives ruined by and arrogant reporter, and Amy's family does not need to see this brought up on the news every day.
Who's the ignorant idiot now?
For the record, I haven't done an interview with Channel 5 in about three years.
LIAR! What is this then?
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigators-look-into-possible-connection-between-joe-kopp-murder-and-mihaljevic-cold-case
That's a video of the story we did a couple years ago. And I'm not in it.
I understand they re-aired it, but both those videos are years old.
DEVON:
It seems to me that you have some kind of grudge against getting justice for child killers? James Renner has kept this case alive to the public. It is crucial to do what he is doing because any bit of information could jog the memory if someone that knows an important detail about this case, but never knew it's importance. The FBI and local law enforcement have undeniably continued to work leads on this case when they are made aware of them, but obviously these individuals have OTHER things to do, and cannot dedicate all of their time to Amy, even though I'm sure some would if given the option. Without James, I find it hard to believe that the advances in this case would have been possible. And as for him acting like a 'detective', who really cares? As long as in the end, justice is served against the person/people that ended Amy's life, then who cares how that is accomplished?
Frank Dienes is PROBABLY going to jail for a very long time. He is being tried for MURDER, so your comment about ruining innocent peoples lives is a little farfetched. And the people James has spoken to in regards to Amy's case didn't have a gun to their head, they spoke to him because they wanted to.
You are the one coming onto James Renner's site and posting negative things. It's almost as if you think that people are going to agree with you, even though most people that visit this blog are supporters of James and what he is trying to do. So who is the ignorant idiot you ask? I think you have answered your own question!
There are two videos that show up on the link to News Channel 5. The second video has Renner in it. Of course, his book is sitting right in front of him. Even if this video was aired 3 years ago, it was on last night, I saw it. It is strange that he did not know he was on TV HMMM
I figured it was renner that commented anonymously to my first post. It is funny that he has to post comments on his own blog to try and defend himself.
It's sad to see that Renner is using this recent situation to promote himself and his book. It is not fair to those innocent people he brings attention to.
Renner: Let the detectives do their job, and stop harassing people
To the Anonymous arguing with me:
Okay ...
I will repeat myself.
Joe Kopp DID tell a bunch of people that Dienes was involved with Amy's murder.
No, it's not a fact that Dienes did do it (neither Renner or myself are saying that), but it is no doubt that Joe told people that Frank did it. He did. A LOT of people can vouch for that.
Mr. Renner hasn't said anything to me. He doesn't even know me. I'm just another person who is concerned about who the killer is of Joe and Amy.
Renner has not thrown Dienes under the bus. If he did then in this blog, he would have said "Yes, I think Frank Dienes murdered Amy." with no support to back himself up.
That is not the case, he didn't say that, he didn't throw anyone under.
Nor am I, like Renner said, we're all waiting for the missing piece but Frank is interesting.
I read all of Renner's blogs, I am well-educated. Thank you.
If you didn't know, journalists jobs ARE to interview people ... how else would they get their information?
I'm sure Amy's family is wanting to know who the killer is just as much as Renner and everyone else does. And it's not like Renner is attacking them. He's TRYING to help educate people about Amy. I never knew anything about Amy until I read this, and I'm glad I know. People need to know about her and her life ...
The only way people can find murderers is to have suspects. And most of them didn't do it, most are going to be innocent. But most or all have a reason to be a suspect ... no? They wouldn't be a suspect for no reason at all.
By the way, I didn't say you ARE an ignorant idiot. I don't even know you. I said if you don't cite what you say and give a good argument, you'll make yourself sound like one.
I am not an idiot at all. I'm very intelligent and I make sure I fight with sources.
I'm done, it's been fun. :)
Mr. Renner, I have a lot of respect for you. Thank you for educating us and keeping everyone updated on you're findings. I didn't know Joe very well, but he was family to Seven Hills and Parma and he was a sweetheart. I hope to hear first from you if Dienes is innocent or guilty of Joe's and Amy's deaths, whats going to happen to him, and the killer of Amy if he gets caught.
Thanks. :)
Dienes flooring biz has a web page. I doubt a guy
who is allegedly brain damaged and illiterate could run
and maintain a business with a web page.
The thing that makes me think this story might have legs and fire behind the smoke is Dienes denial of
of knowing who Amy is. That's a huge red flag coming
from a guy who was person of interest in 89 and worked on her fathers floors and boarded a guy who
was walking around claiming he killed her.
"Dienes flooring biz has a web page. I doubt a guy
who is allegedly brain damaged and illiterate could run
and maintain a business with a web page".
Uh, you can pay somebody to run your web site. Lots of people do.
I also looked at his website for his business and there are a great number of spelling & grammatical errors. However the format he set it up in is very well thought through, and the information under each topic heading is relevant to the title of the topic. I don't know very many people suffering from memory loss associated with brain damage that can maneuver themselves through a website set-up & remember all of the history & details behind the origin of his flooring business. Illiteracy does not make a person brain damaged, it does not even make a person completely stupid - only in certain aspects of their life.
Obviously he's smart enough to play dumb, now it just depends on who in the jury is dumb enough to believe it!
Continuance from my 1st post ending with: depends on who in the jury is dumb enough to believe him
Examples from Franks page of his illiteracy:
-In a national survey realtors state that a home will sell about 90% faster and for more money if their are hardwood floors.
-Due to new technology, techniques, and prodcuts an occastional cleaning with a wood floor product is recommended
-We pride ourseselves in the work we do with decks, staircases, and balcanies. Frank Dienes has a vast expert knowledge of many carpenty techniques that will inspire your dream home into a reality.
-The Naitiional Realators Association states that the most homes that sell bestter, quicker, and for more money are those with hardwood floors
-Hardwood floors look luxurious, have proven to be more echo friendly, and helps those with sever allergies
So as you can see, he clearly has some problems with spelling and grammar. But it is clear to me that he is NOT totally unintelligent. The way he set up the sentences in his mind were in a way that were meant to sound
professional, and if his spelling and grammar had been adequate, he would have achieved that. He knew the tone the sentences must be in and what information needed to be included in order for his website to come across with the utmost professionalism.
He most definitely is competent.
He did not pay someone to create and maintain his website. He refers to 'his home' and how 'his wife has many allergies and cannot have carpet around, but since he is a flooring professional he wouldn't have carpet anyhow'
It is very clearly written by Frank Dienes.
Surely it's not possible that the "poison orange" or whatever turned him into an idiot savant?
He was quite capable of Linkedin and Facebook. Charyla had a very interesting MySpace Page form 2 years ago of which has been deleted. Interesting that she is not involved.
I enjoy crossword puzzles and mysteries. Taking the personal side out of the equation and only looking at the facts and innuendoes this is a fascinating puzzle that may just open up shortly. What I have gleaned from the comments appears to be more important than what Mr. Renner has painstakingly put together. I see a group of closely knit people who have a definite interest in seeing that this case comes to a grinding halt. Their comments border on hateful and since it’s obvious that none of them have ever known Amy I can only conclude that they are either (A) spiteful lonely people who just want to lash out at the world while being protected by the ‘Anonymous’ heading offered to them, or (B) family that is either involved or being protective of one of their own, or my favorite (C) a type of Cult that has a lot more to hide than one small girl and a homeless man. I favor the Cult approach and I see the leader being the aggressive mother pulling the strings. Frank is obviously not intelligent enough to carry out these atrocities on his own. He is quite probably the delivery boy and grave digger. I certainly would look a lot deeper for the rest of this motley crew and also target brother Jim for an extensive interview. This long standing battle with his mother and brother is not just over money. The odds on favorite is on him knowing all and playing the three monkey game.
Kevin:
I believe I have responded to other comments you have posted about this 'cult' you seem to think we are
in. So, although it is none of your business as to WHY any of us hold such an interest in finding Amy's killer, I suppose I will clue you in.
My grandfather owned a house right around the corner from Amy Mihaljevic. He and my grandmother did not know Mark, Margaret or either of the children, nor had they ever exchanged any words. I played at their house nearly every weekend, I would take walks with my grandparents past Amy's house. I was only 1 year old in 1989, so I was far to young to understand what was going on when Amy was abducted, but the shock of what happened to her stayed in the community for many, many years to come.
My mother used Amy's story as the 'stranger story'. It was the story I heard my whole life, used to deter me from talking to strangers. It was the first story I had ever heard of death, and it grew to be a part of me. I would think of Amy all the time growing up, and to this day I still think of her. Only now I think of her differently, now I have three children of my own and think of her case from a parent's point of view.
Everyone has a different reason why Amy's story is important to them, but we all have one thing in common - we all want this case to be closed. So, if that makes us a cult, then I guess we're a cult. I'm still unclear as to why people like you insist on posting on a site that's sole purpose is to raise awareness to Amy's case and give people another place to come forward anonymously with information without fear.
Anonymous that spoke of Charyla:
What did her Myspace have on it that was 'interesting' and why are you surprised she wasnt involved?
Frank did not set up his own website. His wife did. Char ran every aspect of his business except for the labor itself. Frank can barely read, let alone set up a website. He was pulled out of school in 4th grade.
I will respond to the first anonymous after my previous post. I always use my own name and it's very simple to look up who I am on the internet. Since my name has never appeared on this blog before you can be assured that you have never responded to me in the past. Growing up in Fairview Park and being 46 when all this originally occurred I am very familiar with what happened.
Your comment doesn't make a lot of sense to a person like me. Who is WE? I had no idea that WE, a group of anonymous posters, had a spokesman. If in fact you really want this case to be closed that means you want it to be solved. I get the feeling that anyone who offers a theory doesn't belong to the coveted WE group and is ostercised the first time they offer an opinion. Judging by your comments admitting to be a Cult I think I may be on the right track. Whether your intentions are honorable or not, your closed mind approach is just how a Cult is started. Your statement "I'm still unclear as to why people like you insist on posting on a site that's sole purpose is to raise awareness to Amy's case" is right off the wall. I assume you already have some predisposition regarding what happened and any new theory from someone who never walked past a house at age one must be wrong and certainly is not raising any type of awareness.
As far as giving people another place to come forward anonymously with information without fear is ludicrous. Do you suppose after all these years the perpetrator is leaving hints or a bunch of nosy little people with too much time on their hands are writing fiction? Anonymous just means not credible and fear. I am neither and any idea I put forth is what I am thinking and who knows, I just might be onto something. My question is what is yoru name and why do not want my theory written about?
Is there viable DNA evidence from the case 20 yrs ago? If so, why haven't they just cleared his name?
You sir, are unbelievable. Plain and simple, there's just no other way to put it. The fact that it bothers you this much that a group of people that share common interests (which is what I referred to as 'we') come together on a WEBSITE, on the INTERNET and talk about an unsolved case. Do you go on websleuths.com and talk all of this nonsense too? If so, it's clearly not 'us' that have the problem. And I did not say I was 1 year old when I walked by her house, I was 1 year old when it HAPPENED, and continued hearing about her & walking by her house until I was a preteen and my grandparents moved to Florida. Regardless, I have my personal reasons why this case interests me after all of these years, just as I have my reasons why I choose to remain anonymous - none of which are actually your business.
And maybe you should try rereading past posts and actually trying to UNDERSTAND them instead of seeing your way as the golden path & anyone else's as ludacris. I believe I said something along the lines of: people may know things that they DON'T KNOW are important. Keeping new information available to people may show people that these details, that they thought meant nothing, are important.
It has been said that the perps often return to the scene of the crime, or interject themselves into the investigation .... maybe you have something to hide? Sounds ludacris right? Well thats how your gibberish sounds to 'US', you know, the 'cult' haha. Or maybe you're just crazy? Clearly 'we' are not the only spiteful lonely people that want to lash out at the world. As far as I can tell, you seem to be doing quite a bit of lashing yourself!
You are a 68 year old man, that is obviously checking this blog just as much as the rest of us - so maybe you're room to talk isn't as large as you originally thought! Have a good day!
And yes, I chose 'Anonymous' as my name again, maybe that should be the official name of our cult. I like it.
Am I the only one confused here? I assumed Kevin's initial reference to a cult to be referring to a group of "anonymous" posters all defending Frank in their comments. Is the latest "anonymous" commenter lacking in reading comprehension skills - or am I? Haha
If Joe Kopp said he knew Dienes' was Amy's killer, does anyone know how he came to that conclusion? Does anyone know what info Joe had??
I second on "Anonymous" being our 'cult' name ! ;)
Well said, Anonymous. :)
Don't think it's Dienes. Just a coincidence. It will get authorities sidetracked. Stay on Runkle! There have been a lot of advances in DNA technology. BTW, who is that "Kenny Runkle" shown in the band pictures that Dean was in? Is he a relative (his brother or something)? One of your articles said that some of Dean's relatives were interviewed in 2003 - do you know who they were and if this guy Kenny was one of them??
i know frank murdered joe and which article r you refering tooo????
"Anonymous said...
Am I the only one confused here? I assumed Kevin's initial reference to a cult to be referring to a group of "anonymous" posters all defending Frank in their comments. Is the latest "anonymous" commenter lacking in reading comprehension skills - or am I? Haha"
You're not the only one as it was clear to me, too.
But I don't know why Kevin Ruic went with Anonymous's rant. Doesn't sound like he read his/her post either to which side s/he's on.
Anonymous "cult", read Kevin Ruic's first post again. Clearly he is talking about those defending Frank.
He:
- Drove a van.
- Knew both areas (Bay and Ashland).
- Hunted.
- Is going on trial for killing someone; maybe he killed in the past and got away with it / could live with it.
- Looked like the police sketch.
- Was questioned years AFTER the crime when new evidence was uncovered (other girls were contacted).
- Had a motive to kill Joe Kopp.
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